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POLICE have still to trace six people who they believe could hold vital information that could lead them to the killer of a Hampshire grandmother.
As the inquiry reaches its six-month anniversary since the murder of 77-year-old Georgina Edmonds, detectives are reissuing an appeal for the witnesses to come forward.
Officers have been trying to trace people who were in the Tesco Express store at Twyford Road in Eastleigh when the prime suspect in the murder case is known to have used a cash card stolen from Mrs Edmonds at the ATM outside.
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Initially more than 50 people who were captured on CCTV in the store at the crucial time were being sought in an effort to identify the suspect.
Three months on from when the images were first released and police are still trying to find six people who they have so far failed to trace.
Their pictures have been displayed on a board at the Twyford Road store but have so far not been identified.
A Hampshire police spokesman said: "We still want to find out who these people are and speak to them as they may have information that could help the investigation team. They may not even know that they have seen something that could help us identify the suspect so it is vital we speak to them."
All the witnesses were at the store between 10pm and 11pm on Friday, January 11, the day of the murder. Around 10.40pm a man wearing a yellow florescent jacket attempted to use Mrs Edmonds's cash card at the cash machine outside.
Mrs Edmonds was brutally killed at her Brambridge home at Kiln lane where she had lived for 30 years. Officers believe she had been tortured by her killer in a bid to extract her PIN from her. A post-mortem examination revealed she had been stabbed more than ten times before being bludgeoned to death.
At its height, the inquiry has involved around 400 officers and 90 police staff.
11:12am Wednesday 9th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Confused.com on 11:19am Wed 9 Jul 08
Erm.... is it 6 or 7 people the police want to speak to?
Title: "Where are the missing 7?"
Report: "Police have yet to trace six people..."
Erm.... is it 6 or 7 people the police want to speak to?
Title: "Where are the missing 7?"
Report: "Police have yet to trace six people..."
Posted by: ossiesaint, at the bar on 11:22am Wed 9 Jul 08
Looks like the "old bill" have messed this one up big style!
Looks like the "old bill" have messed this one up big style!
Posted by: Iain, Lordshill on 11:30am Wed 9 Jul 08
Are we meant to vote for which one we thinks look dodgiest and then the police go after him? If so, I'm going for number 4. Never trust a man in a hooped top.
Are we meant to vote for which one we thinks look dodgiest and then the police go after him? If so, I'm going for number 4. Never trust a man in a hooped top.
Posted by: ha ha on 11:43am Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Iain[/bold] wrote:
Are we meant to vote for which one we thinks look dodgiest and then the police go after him? If so, I'm going for number 4. Never trust a man in a hooped top.[/quote] no, my money's on number 3, looks a right villain in that black T-shirt.
Iain wrote:
Are we meant to vote for which one we thinks look dodgiest and then the police go after him? If so, I'm going for number 4. Never trust a man in a hooped top.
no, my money's on number 3, looks a right villain in that black T-shirt.
Posted by: Geoff, Southampton on 11:57am Wed 9 Jul 08
Nah, number 5 looks the dodgiest....what the hell is he doing anyway.
Nah, number 5 looks the dodgiest....what the hell is he doing anyway.
Posted by: Old man, in my steam car on 12:11pm Wed 9 Jul 08
In this day and age why are the cctv pictures utter tripe? Im not surprised if they dont come forward, you cant see them!
In this day and age why are the cctv pictures utter tripe? Im not surprised if they dont come forward, you cant see them!
Posted by: Dawn, The Ford on 2:25pm Wed 9 Jul 08
The CCTV is bad because the police are absolutely rubbish at trying to collect evidence. When my father was a victim of crime recently we had to phone the police a dozen times to remind them to pick up the CCTV. When they finally sent an officer out they somehow managed to wipe the CCTV. Even tho the criminal was caught on it on 5 different occasions!! When the criminal was in action, 999 was dialled and the police didn't turn up for 45 mins! And they still didn't pick up the CCTV then! Surprise surprise as there is no CCTV there is now no proof and the case has been put to one side.
The CCTV is bad because the police are absolutely rubbish at trying to collect evidence. When my father was a victim of crime recently we had to phone the police a dozen times to remind them to pick up the CCTV. When they finally sent an officer out they somehow managed to wipe the CCTV. Even tho the criminal was caught on it on 5 different occasions!! When the criminal was in action, 999 was dialled and the police didn't turn up for 45 mins! And they still didn't pick up the CCTV then! Surprise surprise as there is no CCTV there is now no proof and the case has been put to one side.
Posted by: me, soton on 3:01pm Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]ossiesaint[/bold] wrote:
Looks like the \"old bill\" have messed this one up big style! [/quote] Oh, and how have they done that then? Don't tell me, they failed to bring their crystal ball in to work! It's so easy to sit and criticise but I wonder if tasked with finding strangers, who might not even have been from around the area, whether people could acheive that? They are not suspects, as the report says, they might not even realise that their being there that day was remotely significant. Surely all the Police can do is release the pictures, make enquiries and hope that someone might recognise them from the pictures.
I can't see how that's messing it up?
ossiesaint wrote:
Looks like the \"old bill\" have messed this one up big style!
Oh, and how have they done that then? Don't tell me, they failed to bring their crystal ball in to work! It's so easy to sit and criticise but I wonder if tasked with finding strangers, who might not even have been from around the area, whether people could acheive that? They are not suspects, as the report says, they might not even realise that their being there that day was remotely significant. Surely all the Police can do is release the pictures, make enquiries and hope that someone might recognise them from the pictures.
I can't see how that's messing it up?
Posted by: me, soton on 3:11pm Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Dawn[/bold] wrote:
The CCTV is bad because the police are absolutely rubbish at trying to collect evidence. When my father was a victim of crime recently we had to phone the police a dozen times to remind them to pick up the CCTV. When they finally sent an officer out they somehow managed to wipe the CCTV. Even tho the criminal was caught on it on 5 different occasions!! When the criminal was in action, 999 was dialled and the police didn't turn up for 45 mins! And they still didn't pick up the CCTV then! Surprise surprise as there is no CCTV there is now no proof and the case has been put to one side. [/quote] So, this generalisation about 'The Police' i.e. every member of HC, is based on an incident that your father was unfortunate enough to experience. Surely it would be down to the individual who was tasked with dealing with the incident.
999 calls are prioritised, and although no crime is remotely pleasant for the victim, the responding unit would have got to you just as soon as was possible, i.e as soon as the unit had finished dealing with the current incident.
No Police force is perfect and things do happen which are unfortunate, but I would say that the vast majority of the force are very conciencious. The job can be very challenging, that is what they joined up for and certainly wouldn't take up a job if they thought it too much bother.
Dawn wrote:
The CCTV is bad because the police are absolutely rubbish at trying to collect evidence. When my father was a victim of crime recently we had to phone the police a dozen times to remind them to pick up the CCTV. When they finally sent an officer out they somehow managed to wipe the CCTV. Even tho the criminal was caught on it on 5 different occasions!! When the criminal was in action, 999 was dialled and the police didn't turn up for 45 mins! And they still didn't pick up the CCTV then! Surprise surprise as there is no CCTV there is now no proof and the case has been put to one side.
So, this generalisation about 'The Police' i.e. every member of HC, is based on an incident that your father was unfortunate enough to experience. Surely it would be down to the individual who was tasked with dealing with the incident.
999 calls are prioritised, and although no crime is remotely pleasant for the victim, the responding unit would have got to you just as soon as was possible, i.e as soon as the unit had finished dealing with the current incident.
No Police force is perfect and things do happen which are unfortunate, but I would say that the vast majority of the force are very conciencious. The job can be very challenging, that is what they joined up for and certainly wouldn't take up a job if they thought it too much bother.
Posted by: ossiesaint, at the bar on 3:15pm Wed 9 Jul 08
[quote][bold]me[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ossiesaint[/bold] wrote: Looks like the \\\"old bill\\\" have messed this one up big style! [/quote] Oh, and how have they done that then? Don\'t tell me, they failed to bring their crystal ball in to work! It\'s so easy to sit and criticise but I wonder if tasked with finding strangers, who might not even have been from around the area, whether people could acheive that? They are not suspects, as the report says, they might not even realise that their being there that day was remotely significant. Surely all the Police can do is release the pictures, make enquiries and hope that someone might recognise them from the pictures. I can\'t see how that\'s messing it up?[/quote] I meant the case! total balls up!
me wrote:
ossiesaint wrote: Looks like the \\\"old bill\\\" have messed this one up big style!
Oh, and how have they done that then? Don\'t tell me, they failed to bring their crystal ball in to work! It\'s so easy to sit and criticise but I wonder if tasked with finding strangers, who might not even have been from around the area, whether people could acheive that? They are not suspects, as the report says, they might not even realise that their being there that day was remotely significant. Surely all the Police can do is release the pictures, make enquiries and hope that someone might recognise them from the pictures. I can\'t see how that\'s messing it up?
I meant the case! total balls up!
Posted by: Dawn, The Ford on 3:23pm Wed 9 Jul 08
In reply to me from southampton. I can only assume you are a police officer?? When you have been a victim of crime and have seen nothing being done to protect you or your property then maybe you will have a change of heart.
In reply to me from southampton. I can only assume you are a police officer?? When you have been a victim of crime and have seen nothing being done to protect you or your property then maybe you will have a change of heart.
Posted by: Big Boy, Hythe on 5:29am Thu 10 Jul 08
There is no need to worry about the amount of security camera surveillance if this is the quality of them! Totally useless in recognising anyone! The reason for fitting CCTV cameras with this low definition is cost. They only deter honest people.
There is no need to worry about the amount of security camera surveillance if this is the quality of them! Totally useless in recognising anyone! The reason for fitting CCTV cameras with this low definition is cost. They only deter honest people.
Posted by: Merckxy, Eastleigh on 1:01pm Fri 11 Jul 08
Usual police c**k up. What more can you expect from the overweight and overworked boys in blue - bring on the doughnuts!!!!!!
Usual police c**k up. What more can you expect from the overweight and overworked boys in blue - bring on the doughnuts!!!!!!
Posted by: A Hand Davis, Eastleigh on 8:27am Thu 7 Aug 08
It is not surprising that HC have failed to catch the killer in this awful crime. My experience as a law abiing member of the public is that the majority of officers are arrogant and do not care about the public they are meant to servie.
There is what appears to be an obssession with motoring offences which alienates people who would otherwise be supporters of the police. It seems that when a 'real crime' takes place that HC are ill-equipped to deal with it as they lack the necessary investigative skills.
I live close to the area where the criminal is said to have made his way back and it has to be said that most people I have spoken to locally regard HC handling of this crime as deplorable and there is no public confidence that they will catch the criminal.
It is my impression that HC view themselves as majoy players as a police force but the truth is that they are a small provincial force with no real experience of major crime (or terrorist) investigations, and are fooling themselves and the public as to their true capabilities.
It is not surprising that HC have failed to catch the killer in this awful crime. My experience as a law abiing member of the public is that the majority of officers are arrogant and do not care about the public they are meant to servie.
There is what appears to be an obssession with motoring offences which alienates people who would otherwise be supporters of the police. It seems that when a 'real crime' takes place that HC are ill-equipped to deal with it as they lack the necessary investigative skills.
I live close to the area where the criminal is said to have made his way back and it has to be said that most people I have spoken to locally regard HC handling of this crime as deplorable and there is no public confidence that they will catch the criminal.
It is my impression that HC view themselves as majoy players as a police force but the truth is that they are a small provincial force with no real experience of major crime (or terrorist) investigations, and are fooling themselves and the public as to their true capabilities.
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